Kerry Katona has spoken about her recent miscarriages during an interview with Paul C Brunson on his Need To Talk podcast, alongside her boyfriend Paolo Margaglione.
The singer, 45, has been dating personal trainer Paolo, 33, since they met on the set of Celebs Go Dating, which began filming around April 2025 and it was on the show that she fell pregnant.
The couple went public with their relationship in June 2025 and moved in together two months later.
Paolo said: ‘So Kerry was, unknowingly pregnant at the finale of Celebs Go Dating… I found out in the morning. I could smell it on her, like, weird. I said, “You’re pregnant”.’
Kerry said: ‘I kept getting these hormonal spots. And we did a test in the night and it said no and I said I’ll do it early morning.
‘And so we had an apartment at the hotel. I got up early, I’ll go do my meditation so I wont wake him up and I peed on the stick. This is an exclusive, I’ve not gone public with this.
Kerry Katona, 45, told Paul C Brunson she suffered two miscarriages with boyfriend Paolo Margaglione, 33, after unexpectedly falling pregnant while filming Celebs Go Dating
Kerry said: ‘Unfortunately I miscarriage and then we tried. And I’d miscarried again, only at four weeks. And I didn’t realise how much I wanted it then’
‘Not told anybody this part from Anna. Don’t get jealous. And nothing came up. So I went to do meditation, I’m just gonna pop this spot, I went back and went [looks at pregnancy test] no, no, no, no way. I ran and woke him up. Seven years I never fell pregnant.’
Kerry said: ‘And then the thought of having an abortion killed me. It felt like it was made from love… And unfortunately I miscarriage and then we tried.
‘And I’d miscarried again, only at four weeks. And I didn’t realise how much I wanted it then.’
Kerry bravely spoke about a previous miscarriage in 2022 which had happened around 2015.
She wrote in her memoir, Kerry Katona: Whole Again, that she fell pregnant from a ‘rebound fling’ following the death of her ex-husband George Kay.
Kerry had a brief romance with a mystery man, revealing she fell pregnant within two weeks.
She revealed that tragically she then suffered a miscarriage, but the baby remained in her womb so she underwent an operation to have the foetus removed.
Kerry is mother to Molly, 23, and Lilly-Sue, 22, with Brian McFadden, Heidi, 18, and Max, 17 with Mark Croft, and Dylan-Jorge, 10, with George.
Paolo is dad to two daughters, Milani and Nola, from a previous relationship.
In her latest interview, she also spoke about her ex-fiancé Ryan Mahoney, who she split from in November 2024 after six years together.
Paul said: ‘Can we talk about your year? Because it’s been about a year.’
She responded: ‘It’s changed, my year. It’s been a year since I came and did Celebs Go Dating. I was on my own journey. My energy, I was good, I had my nice routine at home with the children.
Paul C Brunson conducted the interview and it’s the second time he’s interviewed Kerry for this podcast
Kerry is mother to Molly, 23, and Lilly-Sue, 22, with Brian McFadden, Heidi, 18, and Max, 17 with Mark Croft, and Dylan-Jorge, 10, with George
‘Couldn’t think of anything worse and getting near a man or being with a man, or even living with a man ever again, because I’ve never gone public with how it ended. But it was disgusting what happened to me, the trust was just so vile.’
Paul clarified: ‘This with Ryan?’
Kerry replied: ‘Yeah and I wasn’t happy for, like, four years in that relationship. I think after being with George and then being with someone so mundane, like, Ryan was just safe and quiet, but not knowing who that person was because we didn’t converse.
‘I didn’t know, to find out in the end was just so shocking that my hair actually fell out, it made me really ill.
‘I do realise how much I missed conversing and like I’d get if I was upset. It’d be, you know, on his phone like this. I’d have to ask for a hug, and sometimes I think I was actually seeking out attention from him by acting up just to try and get a bit of affection.
‘And it really did turn out to be, I mean, he walked away with the Lamborghini Aventador, 100 grand Rolex, which I’m still paying for.
‘The Cartier ring. And I had a big pay out just gone. I don’t know, there’s a lot more to it, but, I think for me it was just, I thought oh I’m sick of this.’
Kerry has confirmed she is moving to Spain in September with Paolo and revealed some of her children are upset at the news.
The star previously said she was quitting the UK for a sunnier climate with Ryan.
While those plans never materialised, Kerry has now confirmed she is pressing ahead with moving there, with Paolo.
However, her decision has left some of her children with ‘mixed’ feelings.
Kerry explained: ‘Paolo and I have decided we’re moving to Spain in September and we’ve started looking at places.
‘It’s really exciting but I’m also nervous. I’ve told the kids and they’ve had mixed feelings. Heidi isn’t happy, but our Molly said, “Good for you, Queen, you do you”.
She continued to write in her new! magazine column: ‘If the older kids want to move too they can. DJ is coming of course.
‘It’s a lot trying to juggle and make sure everyone’s happy, but if I’m working I’m never in the house and if I’m at home I sit there by myself, so why not sit in the sun?’
Kerry and Paolo recently hinted at their move during their first joint interview together last month.
She said that while they had planned to move next year, her youngest son’s school closing down has been a ‘sign’ to leave sooner.
Kerry explained: ‘I recently got a message announcing they are shutting DJ’s school down in July. Molly, Lilly and Heidi all went to that school, so I am truly gutted.
‘Now we’re running around trying to get her into a different school, but they favour pupils who already have siblings who attend, so DJ’s been put on a waiting list.’
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